After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 2012)

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Do you like the idea of the AK bug being bannable again?

yes
43
68%
no
7
11%
I don't care
8
13%
why didn't they tell me this sooner?
4
6%
that's old news
1
2%
 
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby VentusStrife » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:22 am

ShirakiAeka wrote:2. there must be at least 2 screens: 1 showing the AK bug, 1 showing the Esc user list


please confirm
1st screenie = screenshot which shows the top right icons of AK bug? (where there is AK, it shows green player kill green player) OR the time chaser kills you, and the count down is in middle of screen?

2nd screenie = just the full list of players in the room (when you press escape)?
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby SkySapphireStorm » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:42 am

And they think that forums are a great notification method, don't they?
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby MisterFloppy » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:59 am

SkySapphireStorm wrote:And they think that forums are a great notification method, don't they?


We've forwarded the idea of implementing a link to these rules into the launcher.
Lets just hope something similar is going to happen soon.
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby ShirakiAeka » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:27 am

GM wrote:But this is the first time I've heard of this rule, makes no sense to make it bannable when it can be fixed, but this seems like a minor improvement I guess.

Everyone who doesn't believe me can also ask a certain German GM in this topic. But seeing the German master gamemaster posting the rule and a little google translation of some parts can also prove that I didn't lie about the rule.


Harakiry0 wrote:Must report before 48 hours? How can they verify the actual date of a screenshot?

Not photoshopped or renamed screeens have still their time stamp in the name.

Why the heck only the victim is able to report it? This is the only rule that works like that.

That might be because the victim himself can clearly prove that he was suffering from the AK bug even if he was just hit and not actually killed.


VentusStrife wrote:
ShirakiAeka wrote:2. there must be at least 2 screens: 1 showing the AK bug, 1 showing the Esc user list


please confirm
1st screenie = screenshot which shows the top right icons of AK bug? (where there is AK, it shows green player kill green player) OR the time chaser kills you, and the count down is in middle of screen?

2nd screenie = just the full list of players in the room (when you press escape)?

Sorry I'm no staff. Well, a third screen would probably not hurt: one for showing the act (hitting on the very last seconds with the name of the culprit), one for showing that at the very first seconds of the next round you get damage/are killed/stunned/pushed and the last screen showing the Esc userlist.

As for your second question: the German users already asked the same question but until someone can answer it I would say yes, it means exactly that you have to screen the full list of players in the room when you press escape.
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby WaffleOfDoom » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:43 pm

MikuruX wrote:
WolfenAxel wrote:I'd definitely wait on celebrating until one of us can confirm whether this is going to apply for the EN staff as well. It's not a matter of us being lazy, trust me. This is the first I've heard of it.


Normally, when a rule in S4 is applied to one section of the community, this rule usually applies to all communities and every individual in S4. That is how everything on staff has been done since the the beginning and it shouldn't have changed even when I was given the boot. Regardless of that, this AK Bug/Glitch in chaser mode was supposed to have been always bannable. As to when it became okay to do this, I do not know but someone in the higher levels of administration are dropping the ball again or they just didn't give a f**k until it actually became a bother for them to keep hearing about it.

Alaplaya administration, PLEASE don't force me to return to the IRC channel only to blow up in your face yet again about all the bad handling of your volunteer staff about how you're keeping them uninformed or about the non-uniformity of your rules with all of your language staffers. When one thing changes and is said to one group, it needs to be relayed to the others......IT'S HOW THE FRICKIN SYSTEM WORKS AND HAS SINCE EVER!!


Pretty much this. I have not been informed either, through mail or IRC, or even on the forums for that matter. I also agree with the people here that this should be so easy to fix, by making players invulnerable for a second or so, rather than going on a ban spree. Thirdly, is this change documented in the CoC, and are people forced to agree to the changed CoC anywhere? No they aren't, first afterkilling is bannable due to bug abuse, then it was okay and it was a latency issue, now it is bug abuse again? How totally random.
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby cameltoebish123 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:52 pm

HALLELUJAH!!!!!
Finally I will able to ban them friggin annoying morons(mostly the EG's) that keep doing it.
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby ShirakiAeka » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:03 pm

Now it is official in the English speaking section of this game:
http://en.alaplaya.net/forum/general-discussions-f196/punishment-for-bugkills-afterkills--t493873.html

Feel free to ask xKEIx about it if you have further questions about the matter (I already did).


You can still discuss about the AK Bugusing in general if you want to (I don't think that this thread will be closed or deleted if you stay civil).
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby Hambouta » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:29 pm

Just hope it is something reasonable if it gets applied, a couple of days will be more than enough for someone to stop doing it, making it perm ban for this is way too much.

Schwarzy wrote:Can't they just disable you to attack while the countdown to the next round is happening?

That can work too.
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby AzureRaver » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:37 pm

It seems from what Kei has answered , the After Kill bug's penalty is a 2-day ban...wonder what happens if it keeps escalating..
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Re: After Kill Bugusing will be bannable again! (March 1, 20

Postby Hambouta » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:47 pm

AzureRaver wrote:It seems from what Kei has answered , the After Kill bug's penalty is a 2-day ban...wonder what happens if it keeps escalating..

Um, let me guess, another two days.

I really hope that it never reaches more than that (even with repeated action), not like they won't get anything for doing it, another two days seems enough :o

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